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[this is a bit of a cross post... I mentioned it in another tribe, but had more thougths later that I wanted to bring here.]
Has anyone ever known/experienced anyone with severe adult ADD who has had trouble with the long tantra practices?
I have severe adult ADD, and even though I don't want to, I often lose focus during extended tantric sex practice. The breathing exercises help, but eventually my mind will wander off.
I'm curious to hear ideas or experiences with this issue.
Thanks
SG
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Background:
A healer who I really trust explained to me that ADD is caused by insufficient release of dopamine in the brain. The brain interprets this low dopamine level as a sign of "completion", that whatever required the focus of attention no longer needs the focus, and it's time to move on to something else. The person experiences this as the inablility to focus and concentrate that is the hallmark of ADD.
Low doses of amphetamines(such as adderal or ritalin) increase dopamine production, and help to "fool" the brain that focus is still required, and the person's attention doesn't wander as much.
I say "as much" becuause the solution isn't perfect.
I realize that dopamine is one of the things released during sex, but so far that hasn't been enough.
Has anyone ever known/experienced anyone with severe adult ADD who has had trouble with the long tantra practices?
I have severe adult ADD, and even though I don't want to, I often lose focus during extended tantric sex practice. The breathing exercises help, but eventually my mind will wander off.
I'm curious to hear ideas or experiences with this issue.
Thanks
SG
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Background:
A healer who I really trust explained to me that ADD is caused by insufficient release of dopamine in the brain. The brain interprets this low dopamine level as a sign of "completion", that whatever required the focus of attention no longer needs the focus, and it's time to move on to something else. The person experiences this as the inablility to focus and concentrate that is the hallmark of ADD.
Low doses of amphetamines(such as adderal or ritalin) increase dopamine production, and help to "fool" the brain that focus is still required, and the person's attention doesn't wander as much.
I say "as much" becuause the solution isn't perfect.
I realize that dopamine is one of the things released during sex, but so far that hasn't been enough.
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Fri, April 29, 2005 - 2:30 PMNamaste Stargazer,
I don't have any answers exactly, but because my mom has ADD and wasn't diagnosed until her 60s, I can relate a little to what you are saying here.
It seems to me she has found some techniques for simplifying her approach to various tasks, and perhaps some of this material could be adapted to tantra practice, or do you do this kind of thing already? If you like, I can ask her where she got this info.
It would be wonderful, wouldn't it, to see a book or class on tantra for people who need a different approach.
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Sat, June 21, 2008 - 11:56 AMNamaste, by practicing Tantra one brings consciousness and blood flow to parts of the brain that normally lie dormant. By utilizing tantric practices such as various breathing, sounding, movement and visualization I believe ADD as well as many other deficits can drastically improve! Please go to www.dakalove.com for more details.
Many blessinsg of love, laughter and bliss Tj Bartel Advanced C.T.E.
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Fri, April 29, 2005 - 4:58 PMHowdy Stargazer-
I am an OT & may have some insights into your concerns. When your mind wanders try to bring you focus back to your beloved, then your breath or practive. Everyone cannot be intensely focused at all times. Remember to feel good in the moment & express your love. Here are some helpful links:
kundalini Awakening
www.lifepositive.com/Spirit/...lini.asp
Book
www.tantra-sex.com/SoulSexE...s-PDF.pdf
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Sat, April 30, 2005 - 7:37 AMHi SG,
I am a psychologist and have been testing people with ADHD for a number of years. The healer is somewhat correct about the brain-behavior information but not exactly. I would check out the site of Daniel Amen (www.amenclinic.com/). He is one of the leading researches and has written fabulous books such as Change Your Brain, Change Your Life. He explains the chemical changes in the frontal lobe that occur for those with ADHD. He also discusses diet and other altenative methods. Drugs by themselves don't always work but one can make some inroads into better attention with beginning some behavioral methods. There are ADHD coaches available (contact me separately if you want a name) who teach people techniques.
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Brain & the power of intention
Mon, May 2, 2005 - 8:05 AMHello, What a wonderful & fascinating website! In OT we do lots of activities help folks modulate their activity levels. This approach seems much more practical. Thank you, I will research this more for my practice. Davey G
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Sat, April 30, 2005 - 2:09 PMI have a couple of questions to get a better angle on a possible set of solutions for your situation, which I perceive, as incorrectly classified as ADD. I would like to give a quick disclaimer so as to not create any confusion, and state my personal perceptions based from a long career as an Alternative practitioner of Holistic arts. I believe that most if not all classifications given today by modern psychology and neurobiology as misleading compensations for limited scientific scope, unable to see a holistic picture of the cause and symptoms of socio-physiological dis-ease and dysfunction. I am not discrediting psychology and neurobiology in an overall manner, just stating my perception that the generalizing of titles and descriptions of the multi-faceted and complex systems of the mind and emotional sociological behaviors are very limited, in the best of terms only grasping half the picture and usually falling quit short of that.
Now in your case as with a large number of people today who have been classified as having ADD and other like attention span disorders I have found through my practice that the actual vast differences in affect and form of each persons attention and intentional ability to stay focused very so drastically that any such overall classification is detrimental to any possibility to aid the patient at all. In fact if there was to be any generalization at all, which I do my best to keep away from, but for communications sake and succinct explanation, I will state here as many cases classified as being ADD are based on emotional programming and neurological memory trauma. Some emotional and numerological traumas stemming from youth and especially sexual disorders that have become a rampant virus in our modern culture of psychopathic self-destructive behavior and oppressive fear based violence, when openly and non-judgmentally worked with yield remarkable success in rehabilitating many of the people classified as having ADD. One thing to entertain as a possibility is that just by accepting the classification that you are ADD you give that definition more strength, and though being realistic and responsible for your actions you may acknowledge your lower than wanted level of focused attention, you may want to not be so readily accepting of a generalized classification of being incapable of completely rehabilitating and gaining all the focus and intentional choice in action and awareness you could ever want. It is always wise to keep your options as open as you keep open your eyes.
So just a couple questions that after you answer I can possibly find more insight about your individual situation that might lead to some help. First, this one due to your evident concept of Tantric practices as a potential avenue of your achievement of focused intent, I will ask about your personal experience with autoerotic sustained stimulation techniques. In other words, how much experience do you have with autoerotic sexual stimulation in which you keep your self at the edge of orgasm maintaining as long as you can a very heightening state of ecstatic experience neither Cuming nor coming down? In exact terms how long in minuets have you been able to maintain this if at all and what is your experience with this in comparison to your classified ADD (I fully understand if this question is to personal and apologize if is uncomfortable and would understand if you did not want to answer this either on this open thread or at all, I offer to answer this to me privately if that would be more comfortable)? Next a very light and general question of your over all memory of your emotional past. How would you rate your past especially as it concerned with your youth and main sexual experiences with others, in emotional sates of being, either gentle, medium of harsh?
Lastly, I will leave you with a simple technique of side stepping conditioning that may work for you, which I call counting coins. As much as feasible try to carry 21 pennies in your left hand if you are mainly right handed and in your right if you are a left handed person, and try to with the coins gently cupped in your hand to count them over and over again while doing other light projects like walking or watching TV or talking on the phone. Make a game of this with a rate of achievement with no tangible reward except to beet your last high score, do this as much as is comfortable for this is above all else a gentle procedure and should never be done in times of or especially cause any form of duress.
I hope this helped some way or another and that if you feel like answering the question will maybe help more in the future.
I also want to make sure to say to any one that practices in the fields of psychology and or neurobiology that I in no way mean any disrespect and only state my perceived disadvantages that the obvious majority of those fields outwardly express which to me seems to be missing the holistic picture, and also I state that by no means do I claim to have all the answers or know much more myself. I am always open to discussion about this and the definite possibility that I am myself misinformed.
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Sun, May 1, 2005 - 12:55 PMAsh,
Interesting post.
Thanks,
Ann
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Sun, May 1, 2005 - 2:43 PMMy ADD theory or question: I wonder, does ADD or ADHD have anything to do with the fact that so many trees are being cut down all over earth far faster than they are being replaced? My inner guidance says Yes, believe it or not! I wonder if trees have something to do with grounding, thinking, and running Earth to Sky and back again energy within the human body. The sympathetic nervous system is rooted in the skull, and the parasympathetic in the pelvis. The nervous system runs EVERYTHING in the body. Chief Seattle says that what we do to the web of life we do to ourselves. Whatever befalls Earth befalls those of us living on Earth. Think about that! I think trees may influence us far more than we are taught to think. The Druids and Celts connected trees with memory and an alphabet as well as magick and doorways to other worlds.
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Great Insights on ADD
Mon, May 2, 2005 - 8:24 AMDear Ash-
I feel your perceptions are well thought & beautiful. I see lots of folks in my practice with modulation due to chosen activites in their lives. I find by getting to the root of the things they are fixated on & giving them activities to reroot the activity & give conscious control over undesired behaviors. Your insights are excellent & I hope we can dialogue more on this subject. There is so much to learn to help people in this universe. Blessed Be, Davey G
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Tue, May 3, 2005 - 10:23 PMAsh,
I wish my ADHD would allow me to read all of your post. It looks really interesting. I just started working with a therapist on my ADHD and Anxiety.
I'm gonna check out the website Pamela mentioned, and I'm gonna take another gander at your post. I like the idea of tieing this all into the holistic picture and seeing my anxiety in the larger context. I'm also gonna dive back into my hatha yoga practice... that helps a lot.
I can't wait to learn more about this Tantra Yoga practice and see how that can tie into the big picture.
Dust in the Wind
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:) Energy Stargazers way
Mon, May 2, 2005 - 8:27 AMHow's it going Stargazer? You are in my prayers, wishing you balance & peace you desire. :)
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Sat, May 21, 2005 - 12:23 AMHow does one increase their dopamine. I have had severe add and was medicated for it in 5th grade. -
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Thu, May 26, 2005 - 11:36 PMThe inner smile is a good meditation : )
You may also like to look in to accelerated learning as a ADD/ADHD brain does not work the same as other peoples. Also remember there are amny types of ADD(over 100?).
Unconditonal Love and Light
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Fri, May 27, 2005 - 1:56 PMI too have often experienced this setback in intimacy.
Thank you for your post, Stargazer.
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Re: Tantra practice and ADD
Sat, May 28, 2005 - 8:00 AMHere is another good place in the Bay Area that has alternative help for those
with ADHD or the spectrum of disorders that can occur with it.
www.idealu.com/
Daniel Amen's site has a great free newsletter that you can subscribe to that goes into alternative methods. If anyone in this discussion is interested in psychiatric meds (stratera etc) I know of a couple good doctors locally who I feel have a fairly good understanding of this disorder. Email me privately.
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